Does the eerie wail of La Llorona send chills down your spine? Hold onto your hats, because we're diving into the heart of this mysterious tale on our latest podcast episode of Latina's State of Mind. Together, we'll unravel two of the most haunting stories revolving around this enigmatic figure - the scorned wife driven to commit a horrific act in a fit of rage, and the tragic tale of an indigenous woman entangled in a forbidden romance during the Spanish conquest of Mexico.
Join us as we chart the journey of La Llorona from her earliest mention in Mexico City in 1515, and analyze the intriguing parallels between her and La Malinche. As we journey deeper into this enigma, we'll unlock the chilling connection between this spectral entity, innocent children, and their untimely demise. From her haunting cries to the terrifying stories told to deter children from venturing near bodies of water, our exploration takes us through chilling narratives that might hold a horrifying grain of truth.
Our pulse-racing segment featuring a special guest sharing their petrifying encounter with a spectral figure by a water body is not to be missed. As we continue to pierce the veil of this paradoxical figure, we delve into how La Llorona serves as both a cautionary tale and a victim of her own tragedy. Follow us on Instagram and Facebook to never miss out on more spooky lore. Prepare to be thrilled in our gripping expedition into the legend of La Llorona.
Does the eerie wail of La Llorona send chills down your spine? Hold onto your hats, because we're diving into the heart of this mysterious tale on our latest podcast episode of Latina's State of Mind. Together, we'll unravel two of the most haunting stories revolving around this enigmatic figure - the scorned wife driven to commit a horrific act in a fit of rage, and the tragic tale of an indigenous woman entangled in a forbidden romance during the Spanish conquest of Mexico.
Join us as we chart the journey of La Llorona from her earliest mention in Mexico City in 1515, and analyze the intriguing parallels between her and La Malinche. As we journey deeper into this enigma, we'll unlock the chilling connection between this spectral entity, innocent children, and their untimely demise. From her haunting cries to the terrifying stories told to deter children from venturing near bodies of water, our exploration takes us through chilling narratives that might hold a horrifying grain of truth.
Our pulse-racing segment featuring a special guest sharing their petrifying encounter with a spectral figure by a water body is not to be missed. As we continue to pierce the veil of this paradoxical figure, we delve into how La Llorona serves as both a cautionary tale and a victim of her own tragedy. Follow us on Instagram and Facebook to never miss out on more spooky lore. Prepare to be thrilled in our gripping expedition into the legend of La Llorona.
This is Latina's State of Mind, a podcast created by Latinas for all audiences, where we can share our experiences about love, life and everything in between. Hello, hello. And we're here with another episode. And what kind of season is this? I feel it feels a little different.
Speaker 2:Don't you guys feel a little different? It's Spooky Season. This is like natural to me.
Speaker 1:It's just your season all year long. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Like, specifically, spring season, but then this season comes through and I'm like harder.
Speaker 1:Given your history, I understand.
Speaker 2:Anyways, please continue with your introduction.
Speaker 3:Can you?
Speaker 4:see that again. Who me, you no.
Speaker 2:If you heard, you heard.
Speaker 1:That's my one, so we're going to do a couple of spooky things, and our first one is about someone or something that most of us have heard about, and they called her La Llorona.
Speaker 3:Ooh.
Speaker 4:Me see ho.
Speaker 1:Not La Llorona. No Right when you see two elves. You say yeah, your owner your owner, just, you know, just to help you out.
Speaker 2:And so this is the weeping woman.
Speaker 1:Yes, what do you guys know about La Llorona Scary?
Speaker 2:Mm, hmm, gary, she drowned her children and now, because of a man Of course, there's always a minimal and there's tragedies. And see. Were you scared, granted Drowning her children. Okay, so she looks for other children.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's kind of similar to what I what I've heard, that she's crying because she misses her kids. But yeah, it was always scary to think about and like if you were walking in the dark at night by yourself. Oh yeah, and you're like oh, it's a year.
Speaker 1:It's a. I think I heard about her when I was little and I mainly heard about her in Mexico, yeah, and like it was mainly when we were like around bodies of water. Oh yeah, People would say like tienes que tener cuidado and you have to be careful, because La Llorona will take you, and I would be like no, you're not going to take me.
Speaker 2:I was like no, I mean no, me voy a llevar.
Speaker 1:But for real ma'am here's your child, I can not Nothing, you, I couldn't.
Speaker 3:I couldn't compete, but.
Speaker 1:I did find some information about her and, like the different Lord Okay, about where she comes from. So the first one in the most popular story is that she found out her husband was having an affair and in a jealousy rage she drowned her kids and then she regretted and then killed herself after she realized that. But she couldn't make it through to the other side. So she roams around taking other people's children. Oh yeah, so that's a good, that's a, that's a main one, it's understandable and the other one, I'm just kidding, wow and the other one is that she and as she was like oh, I'm going to be like oh.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna be like. She was an indigenous woman in like the conquista in Mexico and she and a Spaniard were in love with each other and they were having an affair. But he was married and he refused to leave his wife. So once he told her that she was not going to leave his wife, that's when she drowned the kids and then killed herself, and there's apparently some kind of connection. So they said that there's the earliest documentation of her is back in 1515 in Mexico City. Wow, and there's some connection to her and La Malinche. But I couldn't find that particular connection.
Speaker 2:Could you cover a little bit what the Malinche is about? I know she's considered she was considered a traitor.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so La Malinche, or people know her as Doña Maria, she was an indigenous woman that Cortez took Took. I'm going to say took.
Speaker 2:She was an enslaved. She was a slave. Yeah, she was. So she was his slave.
Speaker 1:Yeah she was taken and she basically learned how to speak Spanish and spoke the native language and she apparently was one of the reasons why she's considered to be one of the reasons why Mexico was conquered and she's called La Malinche as a traitor.
Speaker 3:Mm, hmm.
Speaker 1:But we don't know that story to be true, right? We only know what we know from the depiction of men.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, but really. But could there be a correlation between her and La Llorona? Because I mean the second story that you mentioned of kind of be a fair the affair could be. That could be the reason.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and also, I guess at one point Hernán Cortez took one of her children to Spain, so they say that she would cry about her children.
Speaker 2:That makes that might be the reason why Like me see, oh yeah, subrated or something, wow.
Speaker 1:And it's a story. So it's a story that's not only heard in Mexico, but it's like, known from like Central America and South America as well. So, like La Llorona is such a big, what's the word I'm looking for?
Speaker 2:Like influence.
Speaker 3:No Mith.
Speaker 1:Yeah like a like a myth everywhere in South America.
Speaker 2:I didn't know that I was just Mexico. Yeah, me too, so she was Mexican.
Speaker 1:She thought she belonged to us. So there's different depictions of her all over the world, I guess oh is it something that or is she's like?
Speaker 4:are people familiar with her here in the US too? Do you know?
Speaker 1:So they called women like La Llorona, women in white and there is Laura about them in in the United States, mainly in the South, where there's a lot of bodies of waters and it's it's mainly women who have killed their children over a jealousy or age.
Speaker 1:That's really spooky. Yeah, so it's not just her, but I feel like it translates everywhere, right? So that, yeah, I think one of I don't know. I didn't know I, did you guys watch the movie La Llorona, the recent one? Yes, I watched the recent one. Yeah, I didn't think I connected with that movie.
Speaker 2:I just didn't feel it was spooky, but like it was just a fun movie to watch. Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 3:I shouldn't call it fun but I couldn't really do it.
Speaker 1:I don't feel like I connected with that because I don't feel like I. I don't think they got to the roots of the story well Like. I don't think they ever. They place the story of her well enough to where I could connect with it because I don't know. I feel like that's such a big myth in Mexico, especially Like you always get scared, like people are always telling you to buy your own and there's all these sightings and stuff, so like I feel like there there was no connection of that for me.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't really remember the movie anymore, so that's how it was.
Speaker 2:Nancy does not remember you.
Speaker 1:You were not memorable including movies and or people.
Speaker 2:Period, Period yeah you know what I just found? There's this other version, not other version, but yeah, I guess another story. Some people say the story of La Llorona. She was a prostitute and every time she would have a child she would take it to the creek and drown it. Wow I know, I'd never heard that one before. Yeah, but yes, there are. In searching here, there are Venezuelan stories as well.
Speaker 4:Like different origin stories.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe there were many Lloronas. There's one right here Call me Llorona. Oh my gosh. Yeah, no one really knows where the legend originated, but they all seem to have a correlation between children and generally killing their children.
Speaker 1:It's killing Rage.
Speaker 2:Rage, body of water, like you were saying too, and the body of water, yeah, and not being able to kind of kind of living in the between, not really dead but definitely not alive.
Speaker 4:That's so interesting. I know we have some listeners from other countries, so let us know if you've heard of it, or like what kind of stories you have about Llorona, or like with the different, like how different the story of.
Speaker 2:La Llorona in your country is.
Speaker 1:Yes, do you think La Llorona really takes children? I know.
Speaker 3:If you did.
Speaker 1:I wish you guys would have seen her face.
Speaker 4:I don't think so. I think I don't know. I mean, it's just scary, and for me it was mostly just like the sound, because I mean I've never heard it, but you can imagine. It. Yeah, I'm getting chills right now. Right, it's like so creepy, but I don't know. I hope not. I hope it's not real.
Speaker 2:I don't think it's real, but it's just a nice way to scare children. Nice way, it's a great way to scare children to stay away from a body of water. Okay, you know, like La Llorona is going to kill you If you see a beautiful, tall woman with dark black hair, she's going to take you to the creek and drown you. So stay away from the creek, please. Thank you. Would you tell that to your children? Because I would. Yeah.
Speaker 4:So, just work with me, never get close to it anymore.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, I was like okay, mom, I think it's true, I believe in all that stuff, so maybe you never know there's a lot of children that have been missing.
Speaker 4:I mean, there is that unfortunately, yeah, but and the thing is that it's a myth or a story that we've been hearing forever, right? So there must be something.
Speaker 1:Truth to decades, centuries, and it might not be somebody that died, but what if it's a crazy person that's alive? It was a crazy person. Well, that's taking the children, yeah.
Speaker 4:Oh you know, gosh darn it.
Speaker 1:I just took it to the whole Crime stories now.
Speaker 2:We're switching it up a little bit. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1:But there's so many stories that I feel like start that way. You know, like La Llorona's so popular El Cucuy, el Coco, and like all those stories are just like such a big deal and such ways to scare us, but I think there's so much truth behind them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I mean there has to be some truth to it, for sure. Yeah, because we wouldn't pass along all this information from centuries just because we would never, just because I mean, you know what I was going to say, something very controversial about the Bible, but I'm not going to. Now you have to say, I'm going to keep it to myself.
Speaker 1:Oh, I want to hear it.
Speaker 2:Well, um, bible is a book of stories that were made up by a group of individuals known as I don't know how they say it, or something. I can't remember the actual term for that.
Speaker 3:That has been passed.
Speaker 2:Apostles. Yeah, yeah yeah, apostles, a book made up stories by Apostles about an individual who may or may not have existed, and it's been passed along for centuries.
Speaker 1:They make a lot of rules.
Speaker 2:They make a lot of rules based on that really old book.
Speaker 4:But so if what we're saying carries that, you're saying that there's some truth to that as well, sure, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:There has to be yeah, of course.
Speaker 4:Something right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there has to be something about it, yeah.
Speaker 1:We'll get into this topic discussion about the Bible in our next, next, next, next episode. Yeah, religion, yes.
Speaker 4:What are you going?
Speaker 2:to do? I'm going to do the Pope's birthday. I'm kidding, okay.
Speaker 1:Let's go back to La Llorona, okay.
Speaker 2:So, yes, there's many stories about her. I'm seeing here that part of the legend. It also includes if you don't treat your family right, you will also come on you.
Speaker 1:I know, I know, I'm going to double standard from her. Why? Because she drowned her own children. But now she's mad at you because you're not treating your family right.
Speaker 4:She wants you to learn from her.
Speaker 2:Oh, from her mistakes and teach them a lesson, a very spooky lesson. That would be terrifying. Yeah, imagine seeing her. Hey, knock, knock, knock.
Speaker 4:You're not treating your children right, oh my God, I'm going to take and kill them. Oh wait, I thought she was punishing the parents. I don't know who she's actually the kids.
Speaker 2:I don't know who she's actually punishing.
Speaker 1:She's just punishing.
Speaker 2:Exactly, but she will punish, so creepy.
Speaker 1:I like that about her. She's her new favorite.
Speaker 2:You know what she might?
Speaker 1:be a little toxic.
Speaker 4:You're connecting with her.
Speaker 2:But like who isn't, you can relate. She's a little toxicity. I don't have any children and I don't plan on killing them if I do.
Speaker 4:I meant to the toxic.
Speaker 3:Oh, I'm curious.
Speaker 2:No, oh my God. No, I don't, I just it's, it's the tone right, she is. She has proven to be an OK individual. Well, they're not live and not dead. I just yeah, at least how say it's a Serpentio. She kind of took back what she did In a way. How do you say it?
Speaker 1:If you're listening to this podcast, please let me know.
Speaker 2:How did we just screw a blank on this word? It's not forgave, it's not Regret, repented, repent.
Speaker 1:No, I don't like that Regret.
Speaker 4:Regret. That's what comes to mind, yeah.
Speaker 2:She yeah, repent, repent, repent, yeah Repent, regret yeah Wow. She regretted what she did.
Speaker 1:Yes, at least she regretted what she did.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and now she makes sure that you are a good parent, or else she's going to take your children too, wow.
Speaker 3:That's, I actually just made that up so you can yeah, oh, my gosh At least the last part.
Speaker 2:I don't know if she actually takes your children, if you are a bad parent, and kills them.
Speaker 3:But I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all you need to know is that you have to be careful by a body of water.
Speaker 4:Yes, that's the moral of the story.
Speaker 1:And if you find your husband cheating on you or you having an affair with another man, please kill him.
Speaker 2:Kill the partner, not the children, then that's going to turn into another type of you don't know, and this is not advice.
Speaker 3:Please do not take it as advice.
Speaker 2:These are not advice and this is not recommendation. That's my disclosure about that. Please talk to your therapist, not become the next one.
Speaker 1:Your primary care provider.
Speaker 2:Please visit your therapist. Please do not take any advice from Diana.
Speaker 1:Please do not.
Speaker 2:Please do not. I'm not even kidding. Please do not. Oh my gosh, that's terrible. Have you guys ever heard it? Because I keep thinking of this video where, in Mexico, this guy was running with a what's it called? Oh my gosh, I don't have any English words today. When I will see that A speaker.
Speaker 3:A speaker.
Speaker 2:Thank you, with a speaker running around with a really loud saying lie, no, no, no, no, me see oh my gosh. And that's all I keep remembering. But like, has anyone ever had one of those experiences?
Speaker 1:No, no, I have never owned one. I did see a video because German, I like to watch scary videos, love it Of these kids that were just like I don't know where it was, somewhere in South America, I think it was like central America, and they were just hanging out like outside in the.
Speaker 3:Oh wow, I don't have any English words Right.
Speaker 4:What's happening to me.
Speaker 2:Sidewalk On the sidewalk. We are here to help each other, thank you.
Speaker 1:They are just sitting on the sidewalk, like I think it looks like they were tick talking and all of like somebody was recording them making fun of them, how they were hanging out. But they were just tick talking, like one on each phone, just like not really hanging out. And then you just hear this loud, I'm messy host. And they just like all stop what they're doing. And then the person with the phone like push the phone up to try to like catch it. And then you hear it again and they all just scream and run inside the house and I was like, oh my gosh, I would die.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I would die Like.
Speaker 1:I don't know if it was the guy in the other corner with the speaker your guy, don't carry him. Everyone was tick talking Exactly. It was the same guy, or it was the real Yorona, but that looks so scary, that's funny.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh man. But what if all of these quote unquote apparitions are just kind of blamed on this person or this spirit? What do you mean? Yeah, because there's always going to be like some sort of apparition. What if they're being blamed on this woman and now it's even cursing her even more, so it makes it more?
Speaker 4:So you're saying maybe it's not her, yeah.
Speaker 2:What if.
Speaker 3:Because the sound that she makes like that it's so specific that it has to be her.
Speaker 1:What if the minds of people created her?
Speaker 2:Oh, I mean. Well, we're going back to that question. When is this? Was this a myth, like a complete myth, or did someone actually relive this or live this like centuries ago, like what happened? That is the question. I don't know if you're listening to this.
Speaker 1:Communicate with me, please. You can talk to Diana, she's the one that wants to hear from you. You can call what's her number, facebook.
Speaker 2:I would prefer a DM. Oh, if you find my number, you can text it. That's totally cool.
Speaker 1:Um emails are fine but that's a little outdated.
Speaker 2:I only I do not check emails in on the weekends, so you don't know if you're listening to this. You may contact. Business Contact you. Yes, I will, from eight to five, actually 10 to five In a business.
Speaker 1:She wants her story to be heard.
Speaker 2:She will follow the instructions. If you want the real story, no, but I do want to know if anyone has ever loved you. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, but I do want to know if anyone has ever lived like the spooky Cause. I mean, there's a lot of individuals are out and about in Mexico like late hours. Did you ever live this? I want the people, I'm asking the people share with us.
Speaker 2:That would be awesome, that'd be very spooky, and I mean in a way that would be the your own reaching out to us. So okay.
Speaker 1:Oh yes.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 1:Yes, you're right, there's something about bodies of water that are really scary for me. At night I'll tell you my spooky story. That doesn't have too a lot to do with La Llorona, but with a body of water.
Speaker 1:I don't know if I said this before, but I'm going to say it again. So when we were moving from California to Colorado, I was really tired. I was, my brother was driving a U-Haul, my dad was driving our little Ford Explorer and I was driving this little setting. So I had three cars and we were just kind of following each other. But I was so sleepy and I called my brother and I said please let's pull over, because I'm so tired, like I'm just so, so, so tired. So he pulled over and it was like a like just like this empty parking place, but there was like a river next to it and right away it just felt really creepy to me. So I just locked the car and like went into the Explorer with my dad and like snuck myself in there and I was like he's look at me and he's like what are you doing? I was like I'm not sleeping over there by myself, I'm scared. So I went in and was sleeping on the passenger seat I had two dogs at the time and then I fell asleep and it seemed like it was about an hour that I slept and I felt my dog just like really tense on my leg, like if she had seen something outside. So I was like nala, stop, like, stop, bro. Like I'm trying to sleep, I'm trying to get as much rest as I can, and so she wouldn't stop.
Speaker 1:So I woke up and my brother was pulling my dad's car in the U-hole and in that car I had put my earrings and I at that time was obsessed with my earrings. So I was like obsessed. So then I look, I opened my eyes and looked through the mirror on the side and I see what I thought was my brother, with the door open to that car and covered in blankets. That seemed really dark, and my first thought was like my earrings, they're gonna mess up my earrings. So I saw three people no, two people, because it was my mom and my brother in the other car and I was like what are they doing, you know?
Speaker 1:So I sit up and I chug my water and I look at the time, but the clock was like not on anymore in the car and I was like, huh, I wonder what happened, like maybe the battery died or something for the clock in the car. I didn't pay attention, I didn't pay too much attention and I tried to wake up my dad, but I was so worried about my earrings that I get out of the car to tell him to stop looking in there and there's no one outside, like no one, and I could hear the water in the river and I was like okay, they're messing with me. Like they went and hid and I go to check the door to the car. That door can open when the car is up on that thing. Like that door couldn't open.
Speaker 1:And I was like, but I saw that door open and that's the only reason why I got up. So then I go and look in the U-hole in that the window and my mom and my brother were out cold and I was freaked out immediately, like I got in the explorer and I woke up, my dad and I was like please wake up, please wake up. And I told him and he was like let's go, let's go. And so we got everybody up, all the clocks, like my clock in the Saturn. It was not like I couldn't. I couldn't see what time it was, like I had to check my phone. We had only been there for like an hour.
Speaker 4:That's crazy, yeah, so creepy. What happened to my phone.
Speaker 1:I don't know if my brother says that I was dreaming, I could have been, but I remember the dog like clearly. I remember waking up drinking water to like get myself ready to drive, and I remember being immediately pissed about my earrings and there was nothing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Okay, but do we think maybe the river or a body of water, a moving body of water, is carrying this energy?
Speaker 1:I don't know, because it was the, it was the place and it was the what. Like that particular place just looked creepy like with the water and the trees. You could hear it. Yeah.
Speaker 3:That adds to the suspense of it.
Speaker 2:Where was that at? Do you remember Grand Junction area? Oh, because of the West Africa.
Speaker 4:That's so interesting because I was thinking maybe like it was someone trying to get in the car or something, but there's no way that that door exactly, but it couldn't, it couldn't be that.
Speaker 1:And that's like. My first thought was like oh shoot, like there's actually somebody out here.
Speaker 2:That's going to kill me for the car you know.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I tried to open that door and I couldn't open that door, but I swore that door was open. Wow, wow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know, man, I think that's what's helping the the, the river, I guess the river, the creek or whatever, the moving water, that's what's helping the move, the, what's it called La Llorona, visit many, many countries, just the bond or states Water moving the energy the energy that it carries.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's an interesting thing.
Speaker 2:I like that. It's spooky yeah. I mean you know what's crazy? I have an article up about La Llorona and there's this story from Colorado as well. I know Don't mean to read it.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:This is a reader's story for an article. La Llorona woke me up once when I was camping at Indian Falls Rapids on the Yampa River in Colorado when I was 15. I walked with her to a cabin and there was a man in the bed. All I saw was his foot. But when she yelled at me to run, I did. If I didn't smash my toe on a rock, I would have run off the cliff to the into the Indian Falls Rapids. I saw an article in this month's Mountain is it about her? And looked up on the internet. My experience was 21 years ago. Brian from Colorado this is saved did it say yeah, it almost killed him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so is it a good and a bad entity? Then, like I'll push you just enough, how much power. I have Interesting yeah, I thought it was interesting that this was also based in Colorado but it kind of, yeah, yelled at him to run and he saved. Well, no, actually, now that I'm reading this and actually interpreting it, it was an accident that he tripped and that's why he didn't die or else she was trying to kill him.
Speaker 2:She was trying to kill him because she told him to run and then she would have fallen into the water.
Speaker 1:Which would have?
Speaker 2:made her more powerful, more powerful.
Speaker 1:I Wanted to learn more about her now, but now I don't want her to contact me.
Speaker 4:Please don't contact no, she's conducting Diana. Yeah, diana, when she tells you when she tells her, you, her true story.
Speaker 1:I Would really like to know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course. Well, you can write a book about it. No, I won't do that. She can do that herself.
Speaker 1:I know.
Speaker 2:No, I wouldn't do that. I don't have time for her.
Speaker 1:A lot of ink behind that.
Speaker 2:You just got to treat them with respect, you know, and that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 4:Yeah that was.
Speaker 2:Just setting up my boundary.
Speaker 1:No, it would be an important day if she comes for you and you gotta be nice to her.
Speaker 2:She's gotta be nice back. Oh, we're reading this story. How about this? Man just almost died and I'm over here like yeah exactly. I Would like to learn more about her. I feel like I'm glad that she Repented I don't know if that's the correct way to say that, but I'm glad she did in a way. If she's still killing, that is not cool.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, that is not okay, please stop doing that. What if she's misunderstood? What if the person that killed the kids was her husband and they blamed it on her? Killed her, and the reason why she's roaming around is because she's trying to find her kids.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah yeah, I believe blamed for his doing.
Speaker 4:That's why she can't move on, because, because she was blamed for something that she didn't exactly that's what happened.
Speaker 1:I 100% believe it.
Speaker 4:How did we?
Speaker 1:even maybe. What is she just put that in my mind.
Speaker 2:You know what?
Speaker 1:that's her story that is totally gotta be Branding. Yeah, we are. I'm so sorry we were doubting you, but now we understand. Now we understand it wasn't your fault, girl, mm-hmm, it was his cheating oh oh my gosh, you know what?
Speaker 2:I kind of believe that more I do too. Women get blamed for everything all the time. What makes like? What makes this thing? That didn't happen in this?
Speaker 1:instance, what if like? Think about this.
Speaker 2:You know no. Thank you for reaching out.
Speaker 1:Yes, that those crazy people have been like. Those crazy guys have been killing their wives and their children Because they're trying to like leave with their mistresses. We just had one in Colorado, not too long ago. So what if that was her story?
Speaker 2:What if, especially back in the day when women had even less rights, exactly?
Speaker 4:uh, we just solved it guys, I think we did, I think we did great job.
Speaker 2:Do you think that she's gonna stop?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:I hope she doesn't. Well, I mean she's gotta be looking for her children. Yeah, she's always gonna be looking for her children, unfortunately.
Speaker 4:No, I'm sad for her. I know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I, because she deserves the respect now.
Speaker 1:Yeah she told us now.
Speaker 2:She told us just now it came to her, it came to Sanny Ina theory.
Speaker 1:I like that story way matter me too, yeah, cuz I feel like that's more true.
Speaker 2:It just feels right. Yeah, like the way that you said, it just felt right. Yeah, I agree, it's not your. It wasn't your fault. Girl, I'm a Maria, I think her name's yeah. Maria, I feel listening to this. First of all, thank you for sharing your Perspective truth, your truth can.
Speaker 4:I write your book, a book about you.
Speaker 1:Yes, nancy, you write a book, tell the true story of. That's a title and none of your listening can take it. Okay, we are in this dark.
Speaker 2:Room. It came to Sanya, so that is proper Terry. Information of Sonia.
Speaker 1:No, because I can write a book. Oh, that's true. Oh, let me know, see the mind. Oh man after the discovery we should change our subject Mm-hmm, what do you think we should do next, nancy?
Speaker 4:I think it's time for some Diana Zilushi.
Speaker 2:She's so excited for her segment oh man, oh man, what?
Speaker 1:are you mad about?
Speaker 2:What am I mad about? Oh gosh, I totally forgot. I was so hyped up about La. Llorona. I know it was good, but I don't know what I'm gonna talk about right now. What am I? What pissed me off?
Speaker 1:Man blaming la Llorona for Men blaming women. We need to bring Jesse into the Malinche discussion.
Speaker 2:Just say you know okay, you know, just to cover that she Was an enslaved woman. Yeah, probably had no choice.
Speaker 4:But anyways.
Speaker 2:Most likely, we are gonna talk about comments that you shouldn't make or you know, things that you should keep to yourself, comments that you should keep to yourself. I feel like we we've Kind of covered this, another Topics and other episodes about body image, but it goes beyond just that, mm-hmm. It's beyond the body image. It's about the mental state of a person, about the month the bodies, I guess, state the other person as well, um, and how. You know what people need to learn to mind their business.
Speaker 1:If you're not gonna say, and we're- gonna go back to this.
Speaker 2:You know golden rule, I guess if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Keep it to your motherfucking self. Sorry, I didn't mean to be that rough on that, but you know what?
Speaker 4:I thought your parents were listening.
Speaker 2:My parents know who I am.
Speaker 1:No, she has to be the nicer in the Spanish ones.
Speaker 4:Oh, okay, I get you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true. Okay, good Kind of.
Speaker 2:Palabras Palabrotas, palabras alegres. Oh, my dad said it.
Speaker 4:But not this one Okay. Continue.
Speaker 1:Continue, continue, raging I just.
Speaker 2:I just find it inappropriate when people make comments that serve you no purpose other than to just fuck up your day, Like you should do this, or why are you doing that? I think a lot of us is like a lot of that is being insensitive.
Speaker 4:People don't think before they talk, exactly Before they speak. So just take a minute, take a moment Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:Take a split second and think about the comment before you say it Exactly.
Speaker 1:It's just you don't know how other people are feeling, because I feel like so many times you're like oh well, when my experience, I went through this, I went through that and it's like cool, that's what you went through, but that doesn't mean that that's what other people are going to go through and that puts added pressure to other people and what their reality is. Added expectations, Unrealistic expectations. Exactly, and then?
Speaker 2:something else that I wanted to cover relating to this. Oh my gosh, I totally forgot, because.
Speaker 1:I'm so enraged, diana, mad what.
Speaker 2:No, I just. It's so embarrassing. Yeah it's so inconsiderate of other people's feelings and bodies and everything and anything. It's just so inconsiderate and I think especially children cool whatever you got to teach them, but like as an adult. As an adult, you saying insensitive things or things that are not appropriate.
Speaker 1:I feel like a lot of the time is like when somebody's going through a sickness or a disease or something really heavy pregnancy, whatever it is. I feel like a lot of people try to share their experience, like their bad experience, instead of being positive about it or like being like. I know a lot of people that have died of cancer and just because somebody else has cancer, I'm not going to be like, oh yeah, my so, and so died of cancer.
Speaker 1:Because, that is not what I need to hear if I'm fighting cancer or so, and so lost their baby. When you're pregnant, Like that's not unnecessary.
Speaker 2:Think about it.
Speaker 1:It's inappropriate. Or oh, I'm going through anxiety, or I'm going, oh, somebody committed suicide. Just think about what you're saying to people. Why make those comments?
Speaker 4:I think people are trying to relate to your story, but that's just not the way to do it.
Speaker 1:Right not in that kind of way.
Speaker 2:It's a very uneducated way to do that. It's in a very uneducated way to go about giving advice.
Speaker 1:I guess it's very unsensitive, very, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I think people need to, in many other aspects as well, mind their own business. If it doesn't relate to you and you're not going to say something positive, then don't say it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, exactly, maybe if you're not asking for their opinion Especially that Don't offer just because, especially if it's dumb. Especially that.
Speaker 2:Please limit yourself. As an adult, you should be able to limit yourself. You should be able to limit your words, you should be able. You can have as many thoughts as you want, as long as those thoughts don't leave your brain, we're good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're good. I don't know.
Speaker 2:I think people need to be more considerate. I mean mind their own business and be more considerate in whatever they're mentioning and whatever they're saying, because words hurt and they cause other issues and they cause more anxiety and I don't know.
Speaker 1:You can be supportive in so many ways.
Speaker 2:You can be supportive in cheering the fuck up.
Speaker 1:Exactly Just show your support by being quiet, by being quiet by just being there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's. You know. Sometimes that's all people need to do. They don't need your solutions.
Speaker 1:Or show your support by being happy for people or you know like wishing the best.
Speaker 2:Maybe people that make these comments are not happy, so maybe just stay to yourself. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:If you're not happy, then that's not my problem. Yeah, but don't say anything Like just yeah, just don't say anything.
Speaker 2:Don't say anything, yeah, so everyone just be quiet Sad for you, but yeah.
Speaker 1:All the rage right now.
Speaker 2:Last comment about that. Oh man, I was going to say something super mean.
Speaker 1:I love how she's filtering herself. I really like it. Who?
Speaker 2:are you so if I can do it people, other people can't.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, being calm, being calm down over her.
Speaker 2:I see you.
Speaker 4:I see you?
Speaker 2:No, but you just just be considerate. Just try to be considerate.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it. If a person can't change their appearance in a couple of seconds, don't say it. You know, if a person is going through an illness or maybe not an illness, but like pregnancy or something, and you have some terrible advice, don't say it or a terrible experience, don't share it. Don't share it. If you um what else? If you're not being asked for the advice, don't share it yeah, I agree. Yeah, I like it. Closing thoughts fuck up, I like it. Thanks.
Speaker 1:Anyways, thank you for listening to my daily show.
Speaker 2:Wow. Any thoughts on the?
Speaker 1:Yorona. Well, we solved the mystery. We solved the mystery.
Speaker 4:Now we know what happened in real life. Um, we apologize to her on behalf of everyone.
Speaker 2:We are ending this episode as an apology.
Speaker 4:That's an apology. Um, I'm going to start writing the book here soon, so stay tuned for that I would read it, though, yeah, I would.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:What's going to be your?
Speaker 2:author's name. Is it going to be Nancy Casado or yes?
Speaker 1:of course Love it? Yeah, no, of course.
Speaker 2:I thought she just wanted to be like an alias, but no.
Speaker 1:Why would she do that? Okay, why, I'm so sorry. I apologize.
Speaker 4:You not know me. I just thought and here we go, we can't do that in a silly shit we were just talking about that.
Speaker 3:Keep your comments to yourself now I will keep my comments to myself but you know what I will read the book.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I appreciate it Me too.
Speaker 1:I'm excited.
Speaker 2:Once again, I'm going to start writing the book. I'm going to start writing the book.
Speaker 1:I'm going to start writing the book. I'm going to start writing the book. I'm going to start writing the book.
Speaker 2:I'm excited Once again. Formal apologies to La Llorona.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes and girl, keep doing your work. I mean, if you've got to scare up some men, do it.
Speaker 2:Yes, okay, I do think she needs to change her ammo. You know, I think she needs to spook men, men Change it up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, change it up, girl.
Speaker 4:I think you know now that I'm thinking about it. It's a whole new story, right, right, I think it's us scaring children on her behalf. Yes, she's actually not trying to do that.
Speaker 1:She's probably just looking for her own children.
Speaker 4:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's our own fault. We did this.
Speaker 4:I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3:I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1:Llorona.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Disculpas Llorona.
Speaker 1:We can't get you.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much, Tula Singh Thank you so much.
Speaker 4:Stay spooky, stay spooky.
Speaker 2:Nancy, get yourself together. I love how you translate it. We love you, bye, bye.
Speaker 3:Thank you for listening to.
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